In our Q&A /feature series Tell Me Más, we ask some of our favorite Latine celebs to share some inside info about their lives and some of the ways they are prioritizing their mental health. This month, we spoke with Colombian rising star Elsa y Elmar about dealing with burnout, safeguarding her mental health, and how all this impacted the process of creating her latest album, “Palacio.”
Elsa Margarita Carvajal is no stranger to success. Better known by her stage name, Elsa y Elmar, the Latin Grammy-nominated singer has been making waves in the music scene for more than a decade. But with her latest album “Palacio” releasing on August 30th, and on the brink of hitting the road for her biggest tour yet, Carvajal is poised to reach a whole new level. To reach that level once meant putting in many years on the indie circuit and playing solo in bars trying to connect to people who had never heard of her. And even though her unknown indie artist days are behind her, the singer admits that the pressure remains. Carvajal says that pressure can be both good and bad. On the one hand it can push artists to achieve bigger and better things, reaching the levels previously reached by their idols.
But on the other hand, the constant pressure to push for more and compare oneself to their peers or those who came before can be detrimental from a mental health perspective. The songstress says that she sometimes found herself in a constant state of work, thinking about what more she can do. This led her to take a much needed break to recharge after her last album “Ya No Somos Los Mismos.” However, in the intervening two years, the singer-songwriter has learned valuable lessons about self-care, understanding when she needs to be “on” and when she needs to take time for herself. From this mentality and two years of no labels and A&Rs asking her for new music or what she was going to do next, Carvajal was able to bounce back from her bout of burnout with her new disc “Palacio.” The album is the first to be released on her new label, Elmar Presenta, and tackles various challenges many of us deal with on a daily basis. In a recent interview, she sat down with PS to talk about mental health and creative pressures and dive into some of the sentiments behind the project.
PS: You’re about to perform in your biggest venue ever. How does it feel getting to this point in your career?
Elsa y Elmar: You know, it’s really interesting because all the odds were against me. I’m not from that generation of women in pop like Belenova, Julieta Venegas, and Natalia Lafourcade. And I’m also not an urbano artist. I’m an artist that, since day one, the people I’d work with would say, “I don’t know where you fit in. I don’t know how to explain [your sound], whether you’re indie or alternative.”
PS: What are some things that might surprise people about the reality of being a professional musician?
Elsa y Elmar: It’s physically and mentally taxing and requires a lot of patience . . . I feel like I’m always on.
PS: How have you learned to balance the pressure to be creative with the need to turn off and indulge in self-care?
Elsa y Elmar: I try to take maximum advantage of the periods when I’m feeling most creative and make as many ideas, songs, and videos as I can because I know at any given moment, there’s going to be a dry spell. But I also try to take advantage of that time when I’m not feeling as creative, and not stress, trusting that the creativity will return.
PS: What were some of the factors that led to your two-year hiatus?
Elsa y Elmar: I was tired of the bureaucracy, of the expectations, of working with the big labels, of just chasing the carrot. I decided that if I was going to chase any carrot, it was going to be my carrot.
PS: The album is filled with songs that tackle real-life issues. But maybe the song that has attracted the most attention so far is “Entre Las Piernas,” a song celebrating menstruation. What inspired you to tackle a topic that, to some, is still considered taboo?
Elsa y Elmar: Being honest, the subject hadn’t really crossed my mind as song-worthy, until one day it just hit me that half of the population of the planet bleeds once a month. And even today in 2024 it’s a subject that’s still taboo, that still grosses people out, and we’re not supposed to talk about…and I just thought “thousands of love songs have been written and no one’s written about this topic that’s so common?”
PS: On another standout on the album, you apply incredible sensitivity to the “mini heartbreak” of being left on read with the song “Visto” – a uniquely digital problem that the singer manages to make feel timeless. Why did you think something as simple as being ignored via text can be so painful?
Elsa y Elmar: I mean, obviously there are legitimate reasons that people get left on read . . . but what I’m talking about in the song is when you’re being vulnerable with someone and they leave you on read, and that feels horrible, to not understand why the other side of the conversation rather than communicate what they feel, eliminates the possibility of communication and leaves you with a mountain of questions and self-doubt.
PS: Lastly, for those who might be going through what you’ve passed through in the last two years – heartbreak, pressure to create, being left on read – can you give them any advice on how you kept yourself centered?
Elsa y Elmar: The other day I was listening to a little chat and [heard something] that struck me as very beautiful. If a problem has a solution, it’s no problem. And if it doesn’t have a solution, it’s no problem.
Whether it’s her interviews or her work, Carvajal’s vulnerability comes across effortlessly. And yet, she also understands that for many of us, vulnerability is a challenge in these modern times. But if she’s learned anything over the past two years, it’s that in order to make space for love, work, or anything else, we first have to make space for ourselves, make space for ourselves in our “palacio.” “Palacio” drops on August 30th.
Miguel Machado is a journalist with expertise in the intersection of Latine identity and culture. He does everything from exclusive interviews with Latin music artists to opinion pieces on issues that are relevant to the community, personal essays tied to his Latinidad, and thought pieces and features relating to Puerto Rico and Puerto Rican culture.
